Actually here is a theory, if the omniverse theory is true then you have to go with the law of the universe that states that if anything bad can happen, it will, and with our luck the odds are that our current Universe is the only one in the entire omniverse that has absolutely no chance for anything like dimensional travel to ever occur in it.
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Like I said.....it's not possible.
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I like my, "We got the short end of the stick" explanation.
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Which is just another way of saying "it's impossible"
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1) These theories are just that...theories. They have not been proven to be concrete fact.
2) If there IS an Omniverse, what makes you think that the ROMANS would grow to be intelligent or innovative enough to explore the ENTIRE thing in the same time it took us to establish America and all the other leading nations? 3) What makes you think that humankind would have made such an amazing quantum leap in intelligence just because its the ROMAN empire?
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As Arthur C. Clark said: "Any sufficiently advanced alien is indistinguishable from magic."
So you could view the hypothetical roman empire's technology as magic because from our perspective it is so beyond our understanding that it would seem like magic. Think of it this way if you brought George Washington to the modern day and he saw electricity, laptops, cell phones, ipods ect. wouldn't he think of it as magic. To use a more modern example if your grandparents or parents are still alive ask them if they would have even imagined we would have all the technology we have now. They will most likely say no. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. |
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They wouldn't be that advanced.
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Alexander. At least let me say this. In this universe their are a set of rules, without said rules they cannot function. All science is for the purpose of discovering and using these rules in order to cheat the shortcommings of our own existence. Magic, by definition, is something that breaks the rules of existence, which cannot be accomplished with science.
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Boom! Logic Bomb!
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The ask your grandparents thing is only useful in the last hundred years or so due to the unnatural spike in invention that occured, otherwise throughout history they probably would have answered. "Yes, now get back to work."
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..........Did you just say that I used logic?
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Like I said earlier...theres a first time for everything...
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Yes, Jester, well said. Alchemy seems to be the only exception.
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Alchemy is the @O#@)% Offspring of a summer fling with magic and science. It makes it's own rules.
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It's the Chuck Norris of science.
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It is something called exponential growth.
Exponential growth (including exponential decay) occurs when the growth rate of a mathematical function is proportional to the function's current value. In the case of a discrete domain of definition with equal intervals it is also called geometric growth or geometric decay (the function values form a geometric progression). The exponential growth model is also known as the Malthusian growth model. US scholar Albert Bartlett pointed out the difficulty to grasp ramifications of exponential growth, stating: "The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function."[ Examples Biology The number of microorganisms in a culture both will grow exponentially until an essential nutrient is exhausted. Typically the first organism splits into two daughter organisms, who then each split to form four, who split to form eight, and so on. A virus (for example SARS, or smallpox) typically will spread exponentially at first, if no artificial immunization is available. Each infected person can infect multiple new people. Human population, if the number of births and deaths per person per year were to remain at current levels (but also see logistic growth). Many responses of living beings to stimuli, including human perception, are logarithmic responses, which are the inverse of exponential responses; the loudness and frequency of sound are perceived logarithmically, even with very faint stimulus, within the limits of perception. This is the reason that exponentially increasing the brightness of visual stimuli is perceived by humans as a linear increase, rather than an exponential increase. This has survival value. Generally it is important for the organisms to respond to stimuli in a wide range of levels, from very low levels, to very high levels, while the accuracy of the estimation of differences at high levels of stimulus is much less important for survival. Physics Avalanche breakdown within a dielectric material. A free electron becomes sufficiently accelerated by an externally applied electrical field that it frees up additional electrons as it collides with atoms or molecules of the dielectric media. These secondary electrons also are accelerated, creating larger numbers of free electrons. The resulting exponential growth of electrons and ions may rapidly lead to complete dielectric breakdown of the material. Nuclear chain reaction (the concept behind nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons). Each uranium nucleus that undergoes fission produces multiple neutrons, each of which can be absorbed by adjacent uranium atoms, causing them to fission in turn. If the probability of neutron absorption exceeds the probability of neutron escape (a function of the shape and mass of the uranium), k > 0 and so the production rate of neutrons and induced uranium fissions increases exponentially, in an uncontrolled reaction. "Due to the exponential rate of increase, at any point in the chain reaction 99% of the energy will have been released in the last 4.6 generations. It is a reasonable approximation to think of the first 53 generations as a latency period leading up to the actual explosion, which only takes 3–4 generations."[2] Positive feedback within the linear range of electrical or electroacoustic amplification can result in the exponential growth of the amplified signal, although resonance effects may favor some component frequencies of the signal over others. Heat transfer experiments yield results whose best fit line are exponential decay curves. Economics Economic growth is expressed in percentage terms, implying exponential growth. For example, U.S. GDP per capita has grown at an exponential rate of approximately two percent per year for two centuries. Multi-level marketing. Exponential increases are promised to appear in each new level of a starting member's downline as each subsequent member recruits more people. Finance Compound interest at a constant interest rate provides exponential growth of the capital. See also rule of 72. Pyramid schemes or Ponzi schemes also show this type of growth resulting in high profits for a few initial investors and losses among great numbers of investors. Computer technology Processing power of computers. See also Moore's law and technological singularity (under exponential growth, there are no singularities. The singularity here is a metaphor.). In computational complexity theory, computer algorithms of exponential complexity require an exponentially increasing amount of resources (e.g. time, computer memory) for only a constant increase in problem size. So for an algorithm of time complexity 2x, if a problem of size x = 10 requires 10 seconds to complete, and a problem of size x = 11 requires 20 seconds, then a problem of size x = 12 will require 40 seconds. This kind of algorithm typically becomes unusable at very small problem sizes, often between 30 and 100 items (most computer algorithms need to be able to solve much larger problems, up to tens of thousands or even millions of items in reasonable times, something that would be physically impossible with an exponential algorithm). Also, the effects of Moore's Law do not help the situation much because doubling processor speed merely allows you to increase the problem size by a constant. E.g. if a slow processor can solve problems of size x in time t, then a processor twice as fast could only solve problems of size x+constant in the same time t. So exponentially complex algorithms are most often impractical, and the search for more efficient algorithms is one of the central goals of computer science today. Internet traffic growth. [edit] Basic formula A quantity x depends exponentially on time t if where the constant a is the initial value of x, and the constant b is a positive growth factor, and τ is the time required for x to increase by a factor of b: If τ > 0 and b > 1, then x has exponential growth. If τ < 0 and b > 1, or τ > 0 and 0 < b < 1, then x has exponential decay. Example: If a species of bacteria doubles every ten minutes, starting out with only one bacterium, how many bacteria would be present after one hour? The question implies a = 1, b = 2 and τ = 10 min. After one hour, or six ten-minute intervals, there would be sixty-four bacteria. Many pairs (b, τ) of a dimensionless non-negative number b and an amount of time τ (a physical quantity which can be expressed as the product of a number of units and a unit of time) represent the same growth rate, with τ proportional to log b. For any fixed b not equal to 1 (e.g. e or 2), the growth rate is given by the non-zero time τ. For any non-zero time τ the growth rate is given by the dimensionless positive number b. Thus the law of exponential growth can be written in different but mathematically equivalent forms, by using a different base. The most common forms are the following: where x0 expresses the initial quantity x(0). Parameters (negative in the case of exponential decay): The growth constant k is the frequency (number of times per unit time) of growing by a factor e; in finance it is also called the logarithmic return, continuously compounded return, or force of interest. The e-folding time τ is the time it takes to grow by a factor e. The doubling time T is the time it takes to double. The percent increase r (a dimensionless number) in a period p. The quantities k, τ, and T, and for a given p also r, have a one-to-one connection given by the following equation (which can be derived by taking the natural logarithm of the above): where k = 0 corresponds to r = 0 and to τ and T being infinite. If p is the unit of time the quotient t/p is simply the number of units of time. Using the notation t for the (dimensionless) number of units of time rather than the time itself, t/p can be replaced by t, but for uniformity this has been avoided here. In this case the division by p in the last formula is not a numerical division either, but converts a dimensionless number to the correct quantity including unit. A popular approximated method for calculating the doubling time from the growth rate is the rule of 70, i.e. . [edit] Differential equation The exponential function satisfies the linear differential equation: saying that the growth rate of x at time t is proportional to the value of x(t), and it has the initial value For the differential equation is solved by the method of separation of variables: Incorporating the initial value gives: The solution also applies for where the logarithm is not defined. For a nonlinear variation of this growth model see logistic function. [edit] Other growth rates In the long run, exponential growth of any kind will overtake linear growth of any kind (the basis of the Malthusian catastrophe) as well as any polynomial growth, i.e., for all α: There is a whole hierarchy of conceivable growth rates that are slower than exponential and faster than linear (in the long run). See Degree of a polynomial#The degree computed from the function values. Growth rates may also be faster than exponential. In the above differential equation, if k < 0, then the quantity experiences exponential decay. After the fall of the roman empire we entered the dark ages for about 1,000 years and not only did we go backward but our technological growth was shunted. In some areas we didn't actualy catch up to the roman empire until the 20th century. So if the ancient roman empire didn't fall we would of had a 1,000 year had start because the dark ages wouldn't have happened. Their fore we would have advanced way beyond the level we are at now. |
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You realize nobody reads really long posts like that....
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Alchemy: "What the heck do I have all of this lead for....I know I'll make it into gold." conducts a Random experiment and all of lead in the room turns to gold.
Science: "But sir that's a physical impossibility, you'd need an untold amount of power to...." Alchemy: "I said I turned it into gold." Science: "But the number of protons..." Alchemy. "I said Gold " Science: ""
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Alchemy is a badass....but also an idiot.
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are you using copy and paste for that?
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