Superhuman/Supernatural/Paranormal Rants (or Props) (Continued)

[Celadon's Penultimate]

[Celadon's Penultimate]

As of late, I've been contemplating the nature of eternity and infinity.

The implications are most fascinating.

I'll elaborate later.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Anybody interested in what hypotheses I came across?

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[Zaleramancer]

I've been waiting.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

God, I love powers that are weak. Well, not weak. Seen as weak. There's no such thing as a weak power, only a power being used by an incompetent.

For example, the power to glow in the dark. Y'know, like that one kid from Sky High (Pretty good movie, on a re-watch. It holds up.) Now, there's the person who would bemoan they had a crappy power. This person is incompetent. Then there's the one who thinks things like "Does it have to be all of me?" or "How bright?" or "How dark does it have to be before I can start glowing?"

Suddenly, you have someone who can emit industrial strength cutting lasers whenever it's sufficiently cloudy.

Vagueness helps. The more vague a power is as written, the farther you can push it. Another example; I'm sure you guys have all seen those powers that boil down to "The user has the ability to perform this Wrestling move." They suck, right?

Does the description ever say that you can fail to perform the move once it's started? No, no it does not. It also fails to mention the range at which the move can be performed. What I'm getting at here is that you can use every single one of them to reverse the law of cause and effect. The move has already hit, and the world will bend over backwards to make it so.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Very true. And speaking of strange, seemingly weak powers, you should check out Evolutionist's Stone thread #5. It's based all around 'unsupers'.

And later on, I'll try to get to my hypothesis on the nature of infinity.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Okay, so since I'm up still, I may as well stop my dawdling and tell you guys what I hypothesized from my contemplation on the nature of infinity. However, before I give you what I have to say, I ask you to keep an open mind. Remember that this is just a hypothesis, first of all, but also that I am a Christian (Nondenominational Protestant), and so I view the world through that lens. It will likely include some mention of divinity (in fact, probably will), but it is not meant to convince or sway anyone, only to act as a starting point for discussion and contemplation and perhaps further development of psychology and philosophy.

You can take it or leave it, it's really not for you, but for my own cathartic venting. Now.

Infinity, though very tricky in its nature, has one property that everyone knows for a fact cannot be changed or reversed or disputed; it goes on forever. It does not end, for having an end would imply finite nature, not infinite.

Or does it? Just think about it.

Infinite means that something goes on forever, but when you really think about it, what doesn't continue forever? Sure, wood can be burned and reduced to ash, but it is still matter. Just not in the same state. Law of the conservation of matter, right? Okay, but that much is known. Stay with me for something a bit more...obscure.

Someone asked me a while back, 'If God created everything, then how did God get here? What created Him?'. Now, many people believe that this is a stump question. Can't be answered, can't be clarified, it just requires faith. However, I think I may be at least close to a solution, buried in the depths of quantum physics.

You see, the thing is, infinity is often thought of as growing infinitely large, boundless, but outside of school, we never really consider infinity moving in the opposite direction. Shrinking. Take away one piece, and there's always one piece left. Split an atom, and (aside from an enormous explosion) you have two smaller pieces, and split those, and you have more pieces, and more and more, ad infinitum. Do you understand the implication?

By its nature, all substance and matter is infinite. Even what we consider a small amount (say, a puddle of water) takes innumerable pieces and particles. Even one drop of water from that puddle is an ocean in some respect. And on that same note, all plants need infinite sunlight to produce infinite oxygen, to supply infinite air for beings to breathe. So, if that's the case, then why don't we get an infinite supply from one particle, which should last infinitely?

Because infinite matter has been given finite nature. Eternity shortened into what we see as the blink of an eye, and eventually a lifetime. Our mortality shrunk down from immortal foreverness. Quite literally, all infinite matter is formed from the essence of an infinite supply. Which brings me back to the earlier question about God.

Matter is infinite in my hypothetical scenario. And by Einstein's theorizing, matter and energy can be converted into one another, by following a certain genius formula that everybody here should be very familiar with (E = MC squared). Likewise, the universe is composed of basically just two things: matter and energy. And if you believe in people having a spirit or soul, a spirit/soul is composed of energy. Likewise, God is Himself said to be a Spirit (albeit, the Spirit of the Supreme Being).

And since neither matter nor energy can be created nor destroyed, only transformed, I've implied the following: Matter has always existed, but not in the form of physical, tangible matter that we know. In The Beginning, only the first state of energy existed, in the form of God (and by extension, the entire Holy Trinity, including Jesus-- John 1:1 'In the beginning was the Word [Jesus], and the Word [Jesus] was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God'). From God, all matter and energy originates, and without Him, it could not come into existence.

Just as we cannot 'create' something without taking resources from somewhere else, God did not create matter without expending His own energy, through the power behind His Voice (His Word) turned INTO matter. His Word given energy, and that energy given form.

And so in asking who or what created Him, we ask what existed before Him, but the answer to that should be clear. Nothing existed before Him. He is The Source, and thus Himself sourceless. As truly brilliant intellect transcends time, so too does the spirit of God. As imagination and the expanse of creativity transcends space, able to envision life and love and loyalty light years away and beyond, so too does the spirit of God. As the depths of emotion transcend the capability of energy to express, so too does the spirit of God. As love and true goodness transcend some quantifiable, physically tangible extend of matter, so too does the spirit of God.

So, um, yes. My contemplating of the nature of infinity and eternity led me, little by little to the contemplation of God's nature. A little extra came to me as I typed this, but, for the most part, this is it. What do you think of it? Does it make sense to you? Do you see any logical fallacies within (which exclude the Christian perspective itself, as Christianity is a matter of faith that can't be empirically verified or disproved)? Overall, do you have any ideas you can add to, or derive from my hypotheses? If so, I am all ears (or, um, all eyes...).

Thanks for reading. And if you didn't read, then please don't comment until you do read. Kaythanks, time to sleep, now!

[Celadon's Penultimate]

I have a cure to mythical Lycanthropy.

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[Gentleman Vaultboy]

You bite the werewolf the bit you. Boom, curse cancels out.

Or you get double cursed.

I'm fine with either.

No wait, give werewolf disease to a normal wolf, let that wolf bite you.

Really, I'm just throwing magic at the wall to see what sticks.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Well, actually, those sound like you'll make more of a mess of things. Though, you're on a good track; it does involves a supernatural solution. I know I'll probably get flack from Zale for it, because I absolutely LOVE TO USE IT FOR EVERYTHING, but...

Moly!

That's right, the supernatural herb that protected Odysseus in The Odyssey from the witch Circe's spell to turn men into animals.

Therefore, since it has the capacity to negate, withstand and protect against magic, Moly mixed together with Aconite (otherwise known as Wolfsbane) should work to negate the magical transformation of the werewolf. Though, the process will not be pretty or pleasant. True enough, moly is harmless to ingest. Wolfsbane, on the other hand, aside from its capacity to repel and potentially kill werewolves, is also deathly poisonous to people. If not ingested within six hours, it can kill a human too.

SO, the process for the cure would be this:

1. Mix the moly with wolfsbane (doesn't matter what form; powder, paste, plain leaves/petals, etc)

2. Tie the subject up, preferably with reinforced steel (not silver; see later steps for reasons why)

3. Insert mixture into the subject's mouth (the subject must swallow it, and there must be proper equipment and staff on hand; subject CANNOT already be in beast-shifted form, or fatality may result...for the patient and/or the treater)

4. Wait three hours (half of the time before human fatality by wolfsbane); during this time, the moly should work to prevent transformation, while the wolfsbane should work against the lycanthropic essence; after the three hours, begin preparation to pump the subject's stomach out.

5. After the subject's stomach is pumped, they must remain tied up until the full moon (preferably do this on the day of the full moon); subject must also be in the path of direct moonlight; wait to see if the subject begins to transform.
---5a. If the subject does not begin to transform at all, even after a few minutes, then congratulations, the lycanthrope is cured. Some lycanthropic symptoms (senses, instincts, etc) may remain for a while after, but will eventually subside completely, never to return.
---5b. If subject DOES begin to transform:
5b1. (for foes) curing has failed; shoot it with a silver bullet, stab it with silver stake or shove wolfsbane into its mouth to put it out of its misery
5b2. (for allies) subdue subject in chains; wait until the next full moon, and repeat the above; add ONE hour to the wait time for step 4 (putting wait time at 4 hours instead of three). If it fails again, wait five hours; and if it fails again, wait six hours; any further, please see step 5b1

You're welcome.

[Zaleramancer]

That holds if Lycanathropy is magical.

I think they'd just die.

Wolfsbane would kill them regardless of what the moly does. It might cure them if it killed off the curse before them..

[Zaleramancer]

Oh and: Moving Stones.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Well, yeah, I already know, it only works in certain mythologies; wolfsbane isn't instantly fatal to humans, but some myth sets say it automatically kills werewolves, in human form or shifted form (even if they just smell it). Which begs the question: does it depend on the nature of the lycanthropy we're dealing with? Like supernatural undeath, and undeath by virus/chemicals/science? I think so. This would be excellent against magical lycanthropy.
 
It would only be instantly fatal to certain of the lycanthropes. And as you know, my universe has a little more leeway than most. I would say this works 50% of the time at least.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

I have a theory about dealing with anything that can get inside of your head and control you.

Having a strong will isn't it. If you have a strong will that just gives them a bigger target. It's a big old flashing sign that say "hit me here." Being on something mind altering would actually be preferable. Or being insane.  After all, you can't punch fog.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Your theory is tried and proven.

Case and point: Joker v. Scarecrow's fear gas.

Or, more personal to myself, The B***h v. The Penultimate's mental perception and manipulation. The B***h has so altered her mental patterns and her psychic brainwave signature that she can easily disguise it at numerous lesser minds, or a group of minds superior to her own, or divert my telepathy to the mind of another, or absorb the psychic energy to make my telepathy utterly useless. It's why I haven't just up and beaten her by now.

[Zaleramancer]

Alien mind.

Can't telepathically prod something that thinks in a sufficiently alien way.

Demons and computers..

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Case and point, Vicious from ESRP.

[Ericus Europaeus (Bug)]

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