Philote wrote
Zaleramancer wrote
That stems from a magical thing called DM fiat.
Miracles can do nearly anything, to be honest. It's not a question of can I do X, it's how much oomph do I have to pile onto a problem to fix it.
If you'd like a god-item, then just make an item and then a god.
Patheo? Surge of divine power.
The fact is- I'm trying to make rules to cover the things you guys HAVE done already.
You'll do more and I'll have to make more rules to cover the expansion of the game.
The problem with that is that we would need someone authorizing and balancing every creation in the game but one of our goals is to make it so that once we are done with the rules, we could theoretically play this RP with a person in charge.
I.. thought I was that person.
I'm trying to build a framework that covers a good deal of the actions you guys want to take.
I did this originally because the rules were originally "Do anything at any cost the DM agrees with".
I decided it'd be easier to come up with a few ideas. These ideas were codified into Divine Actions.. which were eventually sublimated into Miracles, to complete the cycle of madness.
Zaleramancer wrote
So, we should give up now.
We just have to decide which method we want to employ and treat the RP as such. Are we going to the RP or the Game side.
You act like we have to decide.
It's a bit late now. I've actually grown fond of the idea of making rules like this.
Zaleramancer wrote
Then tell me how, dammit.
I love input! I spent the last few hours waiting for input!
Things would be balanced if they each fit within their specific tier. No matter the race, it would be balanced with other races because of the tier it was in. If you suddenly let that race take on the properties of a mythos, then that creature take on the properties of a servitor, then it would only be balanced with creatures who went through the same process. If there is a way for something to suddenly changed from how it works within the rules, then everyone would have to follow that method or lag behind.
I'm trying to do that now and you're bitching.
Some races are far more powerful than others at the moment. Some Mythos are weaker than others.
I'm going to lump those together to make a Tier of being.
In doing so, the normal races can be preserved and equal.
The new category can enfold things like Elves and Veela and Hags.
And Mythical Beasts can reclaim their spot of prestige as the most powerful non-divine threat in the world.
Zaleramancer wrote
People asked me to become more proactive, less passive, to make rules and give structure and order.
I did.
I made rules. I know they aren't perfect. That is why I want testing and examination and input and feedback.
So we can mesh out, once and for all, a set of rules all of us can live with and are happy with.
People told me to stop using the RP as a game, so I tried to start doing that. I even killed off Gilgamesh so I could rework my stuff so that it would not completely over shadow the stuff created by the people who did not try to use the rules. Now though it seems like we are creating rules that will lead to the same thing people told me not to do in the RP. It also seems like all my suggestions to keep things from becoming unbalanced or reworked from the original is being ignored, but that is probably more of just how I'm viewing things.
I thought you weren't simply playing it as a game.
I thought you were playing as a game for you to win, by becoming the most powerful person in the world.
Am I wrong?
Right now I'm trying to make the rules so that we can stop focusing on them and actually roleplay.
Skills and Stats give you conflict resolution opportunities. You don't have to squabble about who's really more powerful, you can just compare and gulp.
I want to define things because I think they should be defined.
What exactly can a Shardmind do? What is the extent of their abilities? What weakeness do they have?
These things fascinate me.
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
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