Interesting superpower questions

[Whd]

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[Marvelous Miscreant]

The thing y'all may have forgotten is that in the real world the city is never in so much danger that the JLA's high collateral damage is necessary. Nor is the danger ever so great that the Avengers could not easily handle it. What's the worst that's ever happened to us? 911? Ironman or Thor could easily stop the plane. Bombing? Piece of cake to stop. Natural disaster? Thor's on it with some help from everyone else.

I choose the Avengers! MARVEL FOREVER!

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 I didn't want to be the first to say it, but that's actually precisely what I had in mind. Scarlet Witch in House of M was pretty stinking powerful, and with Sentry at her side, combined with Thor, Hulk and Ms./Captain Marvel?

Yeah, then the Avengers take it, for sure.

Sadly, I think it's only present company in that pic. No Wonder Man, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Sentry, Ms./Captain Marvel, etc.

[Myself]

Uh, well, Sentry reforms after being destroyed. Maybe he had just "died" in that picture ad was in the process of reforming.

I have to agree with Marv though on one point. I was considering the potential of fictional enemies attacking a city, but if it's just a mundane threat, the Avengers in the image take it anyway; they can take it and the JLA are not worth the collateral damage.

[Smackgiver]

I am totally on board with your prespective, Marv.  My allegiance lies fully in the Marvel camp (with the one exception of the Flash).  If we can morph the variables to present-day, run-of-the-mill crises, then I feel you're spot on.  I was basing my original ruling on the roster given in the images WHD provided.

If we were to take a scenario portrayed by the comic universe,  however (say, like the one in the Avengers movie - a Chitauri invasion, led by a god of mischief), I'd (painfully) have to admit that the JLA would handle the conflict better, as regards to a quicker end to the skirmish with less collateral damge suffered.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

True enough, Marv does make a very valid point.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Trust that I will always find a way for Marvel to be awesome....Why else am I the MARVELous Miscreant

[Smackgiver]

Marvel FTW, en perpetuuas.  

If only we could transport the Flash over to Stan Lee's stable.  

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Somebody on the Interwebs once said they'd be okay to have Wolverine defect over to DC. Personally, I think the only ones I would be happy to see defect are Zatanna (from DC to Marvel), Sentry (from Marvel to DC), Savage Dragon (from Image to Marvel--only because he really deserves more recognition), and...

Hm...in fact....

New question!

Which characters would you like to see moved from one comic label to another (include their original label, the new label--Marvel, DC, Image, Dark Horse, Boom!, etc--and your reason to see them make the change).

[Smackgiver]

Another good, thought-provoking question.  I'll start by seconding both your choice and reasoning on the Savage Dragon from Image to Marvel.  He's got a good future in the hands of the proficient writer.  

I'll also restate my original opinion RE: Flash migrating from DC to Marvel, simply because I think he is the best comic book hero of all time (Barry Allen, not so much Wally West).  I'd like him to join my favorite universe for two reasons - (1) his morality and character could be a positive influence on other characters in Marvel; and (2) I think speedsters are the most underrated hero type to exist within any given continuum.  Marvel, for the most part, has chosen to ignore their potential  The closest I've ever seen them come is Quicksilver vs. Mr. X (Google it for a quick glimpse of what I'm talking about).  Their tactical contributions to a team cannot be overstated.  Think of trying to outmaneuver a guy who can literally outrace the blink of an eye.  He/she could turn the tide of battle in almost any scenario, as long as the writer isn't overrun by pressure to succumb to PIS.  

That is, I'll admit, a double-edged sword, however.  It's difficult to write challenging scenarios for people who move/react at that speed.  It would definitely "up the game" of any writer worth his salt.

[Smackgiver]

I'd very much like to hear your reasoning behind Senty going from Marvel to DC.  At present, I'd think I'm more inclined to like him where he is.  

DC has more than enough of the Superman-ish hero, IMHO.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Sentry's power level just puts him on the DC side of the spectrum. In fact, it makes him a threat even to Superman. Literally, he's capable of basically anything Superman can do, PLUS he has psionic powers equivalent to worldwide-level telepathy (at least), molecular manipulation and resurrection of self and others.

Though, in all, his actual purpose would be to complete the archetype set, that DC seems so fond of collecting, in the person of the Justice League.

Batman = Justice

Superman = Hope

Wonder Woman = Truth

Green Lantern = Willpower

Martian Manhunter = Compassion/Empathy

Aquaman = Honor

Flash = Freedom

Sentry = Struggle

In essence, everything Robert Reynolds is, is struggle. Struggling to hold his body together, from the sheer raw power he possesses. Struggling to make sure he doesn't blast the everliving crap out of everything when trying to apply moderate force against foes. Struggling to maintain some semblance of a normal life (though it never lasts too long). Struggling not to lose his grasp on reality, and not to let his 'alter ego' The Void escape his body/mind to destroy everything.

He is the pinnacle of struggle/perseverance. That, combined with the level of power (physical and mental) that he possesses, and he really makes to the ideals portrayed by DC (ie. mortal men with the power of gods).

[Smackgiver]

Very insightful,  Wulf.  You make a convincing argument.

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[Marvelous Miscreant]

Ever heard of the phrase "more than the situation called for"? JLA is strong, but more muscle than is needed. They have been known to cause property damage in minor scuffles with common criminals. Bending light posts into bindings, smashing through walls to get in faster. Tossing cars to stop a get away. Ripping doors off hinges to get in a building. Hacking government systems to find perps. These are all cannon incidents acted out by the JLA in pursuit of common thieves and gangsters. Sure they're effective, but far more than everyday crime requires. The JLA was always meant as a Big Ticket force for Big Ticket Crises.

I may be a Marvel Fanboy, but I'm a DC Fanboy too and I do my homework.
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The Avengers have much more control overall and were meant as more of a strike team instead of a Global Defense. Hulk not being a rampaging monster by the time he is an official part of the Avengers in cannon comic arcs and besides, it's not like he's the go-to tool for every crisis. You can't say the whole machine is imprecise based on one cog's rough edges.

Marv out...

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[Celadon's Penultimate]

Good points, indeed.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

I apologies if that came off as argumentative or abrasive, but I really get into this stuff.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Ignoring that any real world group of criminals would get taken down by the Flash in literally a second. Maybe 10, if he clowns on them first.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Well, yeah, but by that very logic, why would there ever be very much crime at all, if these folks existed in real life? Sure, Batman doesn't kill, and Superman may or may not have a problem with killing, depending on who's writing him, but other heroes besides them exist, and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just let Poison Ivy keep attacking places left and right, or Gorilla Grodd, or the Joker or Harley Quinn, or Weather Wizard, or Ocean Master or Black Manta. Being the dangerous criminals they are, they would probably end up being all rounded up (and/or killed, depending on whether they come quietly or not, and they rarely do).

Not to mention, all the other DC heroes who belong to the Justice League, or have at some point or another.

Shazam, Zatanna, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, Cyborg, Captain Atom, any number of others.

Whether you're dealing with Marvel or DC, I think it's best if we assume our discussion takes place in a fictional realm.