Would a Race of -Whatever- Take Over the World?

[Mik_Hael]

You mean back when they wrestled lions for fun and profit, yeah sounds about right, but the way I'm thinking is along the terms of a domesticated animal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OcPqk-O-fD4

Seriously if kthulu were to rise from the ocean and declare war on humanity I'm sure some or maybe most people would start running or praying or simply going insane, but a significant portion of the populous would look wayward and cock their heads in wonder of a very important question.

"I wonder how that thing would taste with ranch dressing."

and damned if they wouldn't try their hardest to find out.

[Zaleramancer]

Naaaah.

We ain't had enough time to change yet.

Hell, we're basically wizards compared to the way we were 2000 years ago.

I own a magic mirror that can each show me images of things from the distant reaches of both the present and past, predict the weather, allow me to speak with almost anyone in the world, and is powered by caged lightning.

I can personally purchase a magic killing weapon that can strike a strong man dead before he has a chance to even raise his sword.

Hell, our medicine is practically miracles compared to the times when people thought you could solve all problems with enough bleeding.

[Myself]

Indeed.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 And just wait until our descendants have access to what WE call magic...

[Mik_Hael]

I would disagree, compared two 2 thousand years ago or even 100 yeas ago modern day humans are pretty week physically, and maybe mentally when compared those of the greater intellects who were tackling the laws of the universe with an abacus and quill pens.

You have to admit that modern technology is impacting the world negatively in some ways through allowing humans to forgo using their natural kick ass abilities in lure of an easier solution, such as driving your car three miles for groceries instead of just running it. Which I believe is making the first world lax.

My point being if you put a purse dog up against against a coyote, or perhaps a wolf, which would win in a fight. Society, in general may be neutering us.

Unless those descendants are genetically modified to build muscle mass and stamina while sitting on their ass, I'm pretty sure even with their magic most of us could take them out with a quick punch to the jaw.

[Mik_Hael]

heh, reminded me of this thing.



....Ya know, what would happen if you gave Isic Newton, Aristotle, Einstein, or just the Egyptians, and Mayans in General, access to modern technology?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 The folks of the past were certainly forced to work harder than us, developing more genuine and raw brain and muscle power.

Though, let's not forget, the loudest voices in history are typically either the most egregiously evil, or the most powerful forces of good. So who's not to say that the general public weren't also our moral superiors? We hear of folks writing journals about owning slaves and complaining about 'those stinking Jews', but certainly you can't think that ALL people, or even the majority, are as hateful as supposedly evidential records indicate.

Things were supposedly simpler back then, but I bet they were just as nuanced than we are, if only in different ways. I think either end of the historical spectrum could pose a threat to the other, where vetuscopes and time-travel are concerned.

Further, I have to admit, that would be about as great a time war as that between the Time Lords and the Daleks.

Fascinating stuff.

[Mik_Hael]

care to theorize on the question below the comic?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

No, cause I'm pretty sure the answer isn't really theoretical.

If they had access to any of our modern tech, any of the ancient thinkers would be among the most powerful and dangerous beings on the planet. They'd put it to far better use than anything we think to do with it all.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Hey, have you ever wondered why all the music made before you were born was so good, but all the modern stuff is full of crap? It's not because music back then was just inherently better, it's because now they only ever play the good stuff on the radio.

The same thing applies to history: we remember people like Aristotle and Germanicus because those are the people that are worth remembering, you never hear about Secundus the farmer or Clemens, the dude that owned a bar, and thus make the faulty assumption that humans "back then" were somehow inherently better.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Ver perecisselein.

Precisely what I was thinking.

(And don't forget to answer my earlier question: What about the Warmongers, the creatures who descend from this guy? Do you think they have potential to take over?)

[Zaleramancer]

They're more than welcome to try.

Fast as they may be, they can't outrace twenty bullets.

Or lasers.

You can kill a city with the push of a button. Don't matter how strong the people of the city are. They're behind the killing curve.

[Mik_Hael]

Vault@: No I've never wondered that because I never thought it because I was forced to listen to the crap of the past at at early age, and actually manage to find a good song group in the current day and age, like the Gorillaz. Although you have to admit that music was better before the existence of Justin Beaber and that the crap ratio is rising due to companies learning how to mass produce bands in the last 30-40 years.

Zaleramancer@: All of your theories involve us winning because we're more technologically advanced, but an interesting thing about technology is that anyone can use it. Imagine Hercules with a rocket launcher, Odysseus with an usi, or Gangas Kahn with an array of nukes and fighter jets.

Shadow@: Depends how many of them there are and how good they are at subterfuge, how many rounds from a tree cutting machine gun does it take to take one of them down?

[Mik_Hael]

So what you're saying is that star wars sucks?

[Zaleramancer]

What? How does it matter if Hercules has a gun or not? The strength of ten men aren't going to make bullets go any faster.

And Gengis Khan's military tactics would be archaic, and he'd probably blow up most of the world out of sheer ignorance of the power of nuclear weaponry.

[Zaleramancer]

If you wish to interpret may statement to support such a notion, feel free.

An explanation wouldn't be missed, of course.

[Mik_Hael]

The strength of ten men means no recoil and some freaking incredible aim, and believe it or not to efficiently use firearms you do need some training, basically it's the same logic as gun-fu, the fancy moves don't make the bullets go any faster but somehow makes them more effective.

It's a lot like "I swinga da sword :P" vs. "Samurai jack" except with guns instead of swords.

for archaic military tactics it's weird that we still use the same ones today. And I doubt he'd be stupid enough to blow up the world, but he'd probably be ruthless enough to use it.

Sure I can give an explanation easy enough:

Ewoks

[Mik_Hael]

Okay then, So anyone mind if I turn this thing into an rpg to rot in the queue for a bit, along with the human thing?

And before anyone asks why I ask, I don't know if anyone else wanted to do it or if the guy who made this thread doesn't want me to.

[Zaleramancer]

You save yourself a infinitesimally small amount of recoil, and bugling muscles are not going to help you aim any better, unless you're using a very large gun.

And I think someone who's had time to train with a gun will be better off than someone who just learned that the magic metal wand can make big pops.

If it's just a matter of BULGING TRICEPS then there's no shortage of that now. Only now it's opt-in.

And really, using the exact same tactics today?

We should so go tell the people about to go fight WWI about how standing in lines and shooting will not get them mown down by machine gun fire.

[Mik_Hael]

What point are we arguing exactly?