Lords of Creation 15 (OCC)

[Zaleramancer]

Marv the Mad-Hat wrote

Just as sort of a gauging question, how many do you guys think is too many individual characters to have in a gang? By which I mean characters that are not just goons and stand out as their own being.

As many as you can easily distinguish.

It's easier in a visual medium, as you can give them distinctive appearances, but still.

As long as they all have different personalities and themes, as many as you want.

[Zaleramancer]

This is rushed and will need to be tested.

Servitors, Lesser Mythos, Heroes, Greater Mythos.

Servitors still gain a single stat point, but it's now more relevant since they can use it to substitute like greater gods.

They have 4 skill points, and  may not have a skill above two.

Heroes

Heroes gain skill points based on their power upon becoming a hero.

Mortals gain eight skill points, any may have no skill above 2. Mortal Heroes typically live longer than a normal member of their species, and may, at the hero-ifi-ing god's grumption, be freed from any sort of racial weakness. I.E Heroic Vampire who can walk in the sunlight.

Lesser Mythos gain two skill points.

Servitors are freed from their flaw and gain two additional skill points.

Lesser Mythos

Weaker and more common.

They gain six skill points and may have no skill above 3.


Greater Mythos

Bigger, Scarier and less common.

They gain ten skill points, and may have no skill above 3.


All ranks of gods get an additional 2 skill points.

[Zaleramancer]

I need someone to help me test this in the arena.

Basically..

Use these new rules to make things..

Mortal Hero v Lesser Mythos

Mortal Hero v Servitor

Lesser Mythos v Servitor

Demi-God v Greater Mythos.

I just need someone to volunteer to make one thing, I make the other and we have a fight in the arena.

This is faster than making a Beta.


For this sake, Basic Combat Rules..


Each entity has a number of "Conflict Points" when they enter a conflict.

Whenever the apposing entity beats them in a skill check, the number by which they are beat is subtracted from their Conflict Points.

A Mortal Hero and a Lesser Goddess are having a sing-off. The Mortal's singing ability is skill 2, while the Goddess's total skill ability is 4. When they force a skill check, the Mortal looses and has his conflict points reduced by two.

Once you hit zero, you loose the conflict.


Normal Mortals have two points.

All Heroes, Lesser Mythos and Servitors have ten.

Demi-Gods and Greater Mythos have fifteen.

Lesser Spirits have twenty.

Pantheon Leaders have twenty five.

Conflict Points are restored whenever it is dramatically appropriate, or after a rest.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

So then, how do we determine what races can do first because I'll use Koneko who can be found on the wiki, I just need to add some more skills for her.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Ok, so then these would be my redone gods, with the two additional skill points:

Mina's Pantheon

Mina, Goddess of Demons, Youkai, Shadows, Fire, Ice, and Light

Pantheon Leader

Power: 3

Precision: 4

Perception: 2

Presence: 1

Illusion of Movement (5): Mina can move several miles in mere milliseconds, allowing her to come to an ally’s aid in the blink of an eye or run from a lost fight without being pursued easily

Multiple Incarnations (3):  Mina can have three separate identities that can, in no way be traced back to her, except by the Omni. These identities are self-aware and know that in order to do what they want; they cannot reveal that they are other facets of Mina.

                These identities appear to be fully mortal to all but the most perceptive of Gods (Perception 4+) and cannot be determined as parts of Mina until they use Divine power. As well, at any time, Mina can untraceably take control of one of the identities and use it for a desired task or send it an untraceable message. If, at any time, an identity is revealed as being a facet of Mina, she can abandon it and create a new incarnation, so long as she never has more than three extra incarnations.

===Tool of Office===

Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi

-Kusanagi can combine the power of all of Mina’s domains together for more powerful attacks and techniques

-Kusanagi can create a copy of Mina to fight alongside her during combat; the copy does not have Kusanagi with it though

Suna, Goddess of Glass and Sand

Lesser God
Power: 1
Precision: 3
Perception: 2
Presence: 1
Glass Veil (6): Like glass when viewed the right way, Suna can make her presence seem to disappear completely. Gods and goddesses who have higher levels of perception may be able to feel her if they are trying, but mortals will feel like they're seeing something that's not there and yet still visible to them.

                As well, while using Glass Veil, Suna is immune to the effects of any skill or power based on having a higher or lower Presence than Suna’s.
===Tool of Office=== 
The Glass Sword, Nighthawk 
-A sword made of pure glass, Nighthawk can create physical copies of itself and fire them at any target that Suna desires. If they miss, the blades will shatter and attempt to lodge themselves in an enemy's body slowly killing them by turning them into sand.

Illusia, Goddess of Illusions and Temples

Lesser God
Power: 1
Precision: 3
Perception: 3
Presence: 0
Illusory Presence (3): Illusia can make several illusions of herself in order to confuse those who would attack her. The illusions created by this skill are capable of taking and delivering hits as if they were actual beings.
Prayers Heard (3): Illusia can hear the prayers made by anyone at any temple and send them on to other gods if she believes that they warrant extra attention from the god being prayed to.
==Tool of Office== 
Core Temple 
-Illusia's Tool of Office is most likely the least mobile of any Tool of Office, seeing as it is stuck in the center of Môsôoriku. 
-The Core Temple's most useful feature to Illusia though, is not that it serves as a focal point for many religious beings to come to (though that that is still VERY useful), but its power to prevent itself and anyone that Illusia chooses from being harmed while inside the Temple so long as the aggressor does not have a higher Power than Illusia’s Perception

-The Core Temple also prevents the theft of any item left there as an offering to the gods until such a time as the god either comes to retrieve it or Illusia comes herself to pick the offerings up for the gods.

Kyuuketsu, Goddess of Blood and Wood

Lesser God

Power: 3
Precision: 3
Perception: 0
Presence: 1
Judgement Cross (3): Kyuuketsu can make a cross appear behind a target and latch onto them before ripping them apart if they threaten the safety of Môsôoriku or any of its inhabitants. After ripping apart its target, the cross explodes to harm the target’s allies. 
Skin of Wood (3): Kyuuketsu's skin is extremely tough and it is hard to hurt her with any kind of cutting or piercing weapon or technique. 
===Tool of Office=== 
The Bloody Spear, Akatonbo 
-Akatonbo is a long spear that appears to constantly have blood dripping from its tip. 
-Akatonbo causes great pain in those it cuts 
-Akatonbo can be thrust forward to fire a ray that makes a target's blood boil if it hits (500°C)

Lily and Kyouko, Goddesses of Fire, Ice, and Twins

Twin Lesser Gods 
Power (Both): 2
Precision (Both): 3
Perception (Both): 1 
Presence (Both): 1
Absolute Zero (K, 4): Kyouko can generate ice and cold that freezes so badly that even creatures normally immune to cold/ice are harmed by it 
Prism (L&K, 2): Lily and Kyouko can put those whom they choose into a deep hibernation until such a time as they are needed once more. While affected by Prism, a mortal will not age and will sleep until woken up by a god (dess) or priest (ess) of Mina's religions 
Supernova (L, 4): Lily can generate fire and heat so hot that even creatures normally immune to fire/heat are harmed by it 
===Tool of Office=== 
Twin Fangs of Spirit
-A pair of katana that can are colored red and blue respectively 
-Both Fangs have the power to cut incorporeal foes and allow their wielders to switch spots with one another at will as well as use one another’s Domains

Gravas, Goddess of Wind and Water

Lesser God

Power: 2

Precision: 1

Perception: 3

Presence: 1           

Flow like the Wind (3): Gravas can avoid attacks simply by letting them flow around and through her. This defense isn’t perfect as she can still be harmed by any being with a higher Perception that can use any element except wind or water to trap Gravas.

Water Laser (3): Gravas can use water’s trait of being virtually incompressible to create blasts and weapons that can cut through or break almost mundane material.

===Tool of Office===

La Couronne de l’Eau Sacré (Crown of Blessed/Cursed Water)

-A cup with both angelic and demonic designs; it has two handles, one of which is carved as a dove’s wing, the other of which is carved as a bat-like wing

-La Couronne de l’Eau Sacré is able to either restore a drinker to the height of their youth or reduce them to the very beginning of the weakness of their old age as Gravas wishes

-La Couronne de l’Eau Sacré is also able to increase a mortal’s power levels for up to half an hour, the longer the increase, the higher the chance that the mortal will die

Magnas, Goddess of Metal and Lightning

Lesser God

Power: 2

Precision: 1

Perception: 1

Presence: 3

Lightning Rush (2): Magnas is able to move quickly from one end of a battlefield to the other in a few milliseconds appearing as not much more than a flash of lightning while doing so.

Steel Skin (4): Magnas’ skin is impossible to damage with any mortal weapon and hard to damage even with divine power, as such, if any god wishes to hurt Magnas then they must have a Power greater than Magnas’ Presence.

===Tool of Office===

Raiment of the Storm

-A golden yellow cape that appears to have been made purely from fur

-The Raiment of the Storm can both surround its wearer with lightning, hail and other elements of a storm to protect them as well as absorb any attack with the elements of a storm to fuel its power even further

-If it absorbs enough power, the Raiment of the Storm can fill its wearer’s entire presence with the power of a full-fledged storm

Raijin, Goddess of Raiju

Demi-God

Power: 2

Precision: 0

Perception: 0

Presence: 2

Call of the Raiju (4): Raijin can call upon and utilize the combined might of every Raiju to combat her enemies

===Tool of Office===

Taiko

-Taiko is a set of drums arranged in a circle and connected by several sticks

-By pounding on the drums, Raijin can create thunder and focus that force to strike at enemies

Fuujin, Goddess of Tengu

Demi-God

Power: 0

Precision: 2

Perception: 0

Presence: 2

Magic Gourd (4): Fuujin has the power to cause what a person dislikes the most to appear in front of them in great quantities

===Tool of Office===

Ha-Uchiwa

-A fan formed from a leaf

-Ha-Uchiwa can be used like a blade to cut objects and beings and when used like a fan, it can cause great gusts of wind such as a tornado

Antilaw, That Which Protects Môsôoriku

Modified Incarnate 
Skill: Divinity Denied (Passive) (12): Antilaw prevents any Divine Artifact, Artifact, Lesser God, Demi-God, Mythos, or Servitor from entering Môsôoriku without Mina's permission, those created as part of Mina's pantheon can enter and leave Môsôoriku freely. 
Also, Divine power cannot be used in or to affect Môsôoriku or those within without permission from Mina or her pantheon. 
Note: As Antilaw is supported by 5 Divine Artifacts, Mina has no need to pay motes for when Antilaw acts. In addition, Antilaw covers the entirety of Môsôoriku and is for the most part immobile.

And I'm guessing that the Gehenna-Bound are now Greater Mythos?

[Zaleramancer]

Races can have an abilities that everyone agrees aren't to powerful.

Shrug of god, basically.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

And now for my independant gods:

Jhella the One-Eyed, Goddess of Invisibility and Blades

Independent Lesser God

Power: 4

Precision: 1

Perception: 2

Presence: 0

I'm Behind You (Active) (1): Jhella can move fast enough that many enemies unexpectedly find her behind them in combat and when she moves, the edges of her body tend to blur

You Can't Find Me (Passive) (5): Jhella's Presence is such that she cannot be sensed as a god by any except divinities with a Perception of 5

                This skill also makes Jhella unaffected by all but the strongest of Presences (Level 5) as they just wash over her and leave no trace on Jhella's own Presence.

===Tool of Office=== 

Cross Sword

-A cross between a rapier and a broadsword, the Cross Sword is around 1.5 metres long with an extremely stylized hiltguard made to look like a Gaelic Cross. It appears to be made of steel mixed with some rare metal that makes it colored a slight blue.

Ghost Touch (Passive) (1): The Cross Sword can harm incorporeal spirits 

Dawn of the Gael (Active) (3): The Cross Sword can control light for damaging techniques and attacks

Duerkripe the Spirited, Goddess of Festivals

Independent Lesser God 
Power: 0 
Precision: 1 
Perception: 1 
Presence: 5 
Party 'Til You Drop (Passive) (2): Everyone at a party or festival that Duerkripe is at can keep on going until Duerkripe has become bored of the party or festival... and that'll take a long time. 
You Can't Leave Just Yet (Passive) (3): Anyone with a lower Presence than Duerkripe cannot leave a party or festival that Duerkripe is at unless they spend 3 motes to get away. 
Where'd You Go? (Passive) (1): Duerkripe can sense whenever a major party or festival is going on and where it is happening. 
===Tool of Office=== 
Cornucopia 
-A giant horn with food inside it 
-The Cornucopia can change its size and is always filled with food and drinks so that people can party for as long as they wish

-Duerkripe can control what kind of food is in Cornucopia as well as what it's made of.... And she loves to make the food be filled with alcohol!

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Ok, then. That's fine with me.

[Zaleramancer]

The skills are not appropriately phrased.

Let me, then.

Waverider

Pantheon Leader
Domains: Sea and Sea Life

Power: 4
Precision: 1
Perception: 2
Presence: 3

Sea Sense (3)

Sensing problems occurring at or in the seas.

Wrath (3)

Creating water and weather based natural disasters

Spear Fighting (2)

Fighting with spears and similar weapons.

=Tool of Office=

Waverider's tool of office is a fishing spear, the head of which is carved from a giant shark's tooth. It was made to compensate for her weakness by allowing her to control sea life and natural disasters created by her Wrath skill.

Commanding Sea Life (2), Controlling Weather and Water Disasters (4)


Tool of Office is a step up from divine artifacts and is equivalent to six points of skills.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Ok, I'll fix that. It'll take me awhile though.

Mina, Goddess of Demons, Youkai, Shadows, Fire, Ice, and Light

Pantheon Leader

Power: 3

Precision: 4

Perception: 2

Presence: 1

Illusion of Movement (5): Moving several times faster than the speed of sound.

Multiple Incarnations (3):  Existing in multiple places at once.

                Mina can have three separate identities that can, in no way be traced back to her, except by the Omni. These identities are self-aware and know that in order to do what they want; they cannot reveal that they are other facets of Mina.

                These identities appear to be fully mortal to all but the most perceptive of Gods (Perception 4+) and cannot be determined as parts of Mina until they use Divine power. As well, at any time, Mina can untraceably take control of one of the identities and use it for a desired task or send it an untraceable message. If, at any time, an identity is revealed as being a facet of Mina, she can abandon it and create a new incarnation, so long as she never has more than three extra incarnations.

===Tool of Office===

Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi

-Combining the Power of Domains: Kusanagi can combine the power of all of Mina’s domains together for more powerful attacks and techniques

-Creating Copy of Mina: Kusanagi can create a copy of Mina to fight alongside her during combat; the copy does not have Kusanagi with it though

Is this better?

[Zaleramancer]

The problem is that skills can't be framed in absolutes.

Anyone who's Perception + Skill is better than your Stat + Skill is going to have a chance to detect and trace those copies back to you.

This could be an extended Conflict, but there is always the chance.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Right, so then I need to rephrase every single skill for Mina and her gods as well as several of her heroes.

Let's try Koneko then for now. I still can't think of the last two skill points for her though right now.

Imp Hero

Skills:

What’s Yours is Mine and What’s Mine is Mine (Active) (2): Koneko copies any mortal technique that she has seen, so long as it doesn’t require a special Artifact or Divine Artifact to use. Divine Techniques take more time and effort to replicate and even then, Koneko can’t use them to their full potential.

Strength (Passive) (2): Koneko strikes harder and lifts more weight than the average being as a result of her having trained so much in Mina’s Planes.

Agile (Passive) (2): Koneko reacts fast enough that most opponents appear to miss due to their own aiming. Her reflexes are a result of Koneko’s training in the Plane of Opposite Balances and Gehenna, meaning that they cannot be negated as a magic effect.

Bio:

Koneko is the only Imp to ever have a chance to be a hero and even then, she is the one who does the most administrative work in all of Môsôoriku, making sure that the land’s governmental and economic factors all run as smoothly as possible. She is highly revered by the Imps and the Kata for being so good at what she does, but they stop just a hair short of treating her like a goddess.

Koneko was created during the Tournament of Heroes and has lived since then as the de facto leader of Môsôoriku. She has seen many of her fellow heroes decide to sit down and rest until things get bad enough to be called upon once more as well as been given reports saying that some of them died. However, she has not given up hope that things will get better. When the Lycanthropic Wars started raging across Gammara, Koneko tried to get everyone together to talk things out and have them choose a leader peacefully, but to no avail.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Let's do Jhella now:

UPDATED
Jhella the One-Eyed, Goddess of Invisibility and Blades
Lesser Goddess
Power: 4
Precision: 1
Perception: 2
Presence: 0
I'm Behind You (Active) (1): Moving fast enough that many enemies unexpectedly find her behind them in combat that when she moves, the edges of her body tend to blur
You Can't Find Me (Passive) (5): Nearly unsensed and unaffected by others' Perceptions or Presences as a god, Jhella's Presence is such that she cannot be sensed as a god by any except divinities with high Perceptions
                This skill also makes Jhella
unaffected by all but the strongest of Presences as they just wash over her and leave no trace on Jhella's own Presence.
===Tool of Office=== 
Cross Sword
-A cross between a rapier and a broadsword, the Cross Sword is around 1.5 metres long with an extremely stylized hiltguard made to look like a Gaelic Cross.
It appears to be made of steel mixed with some rare metal that makes it
colored a slight blue.
-Ghost Touch (1)
    The Cross Sword harms incorporeal spirits
-Dawn of the Gael (5)
    The Cross Sword controls light for damaging attacks and techniques

I can't figure out a way to rephrase things easily for speed.

[Zaleramancer]

Moving very quickly?

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Thanks. Ok, that works. As well, based on Koneko's history, got any idea for her last skill?

[Marvelous Miscreant]

So more profile making I suppose. Ah well, I'll get to it eventually. In the mean time, are there any lands anyone wants to add to the map? Any at all?

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

I don't have any right now. I'm fine with exploring the map later and making it up as I go.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Personally, I think the copying ability is way to powerful. With it you are potentially the worlds greatest *insert any activity ever* and that's just no bueno.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Ok, I'll change it to copying anything mortal, though at a lower level than the original that she based it on.

At least it's not Medaka's "The End" poer though (From the manga Medaka Box).

[Zaleramancer]

Part of me thinks that Strength and Agility are a bit to broad to be used as skills.

Since Strength is basically Good At Any Activity That Requires Heavy Lifting Or Hitting!