Lords Of Creation 13 (OCC)

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

The way I see it, motes don't have anything to do with the points of an artifact.

Divines are always (4), normal are always (2).

Not sure how to fix the problem you see with Mote accumulation.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Using the same format you did for two of yours? Let's see... (and I may have to check with you to make sure I have the points and motes right...)

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Of course, take your time and think about it. I'll be here.

[Zaleramancer]

Axing the amount of motes we get per day down to one. Or possibly even none.

Only gaining points on a day you actually make a meaningful post.*

Making religions only supply a single mote, and place emphasis on the fact that they're people. If enough of them start believing in a God that doesn't quite match up too who you are, then poof goes your mote.**

If I go with the idea of no-automatic motes, I'd have to figure out a way of gaining more.

Motes as the currency of Gods was an idea that caught my attention..

 
*No silly posts to only gain motes.
** This is where low presence becomes a disadvantage. Impressive as your mountain juggling might be, High presence is a cheaper way of verifying your Divinity, simply because with it there's little doubt as to your divine status. Keeps you from being confused with a wizard or something.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

What do you mean by currency?

[Zaleramancer]

Different Gods will have different skills after this.

When someone has a skill that you want to use, you try to convince them to do what you want.

Monetary payment often factors into this.

Gold and Silver are basically worthless to a God.

But Motes of divine energy, Artifacts and Divine Artifacts..

Those are valuable to a divinity.

Those are things Gods would give to gain a service.

Crav, for example, can make mundane wonders. (In fact, I'd be willing to allow Crav to have a Skill that allows him to make cheaper artifacts).

People might ask him to make something for them, giving Motes or Artifacts or services of their own in exchange.

The idea is to make it so each god can't do it all.

If people need each other, it gives them a reason to interact.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

I am 100% on board with this plan. Mostly because I've been feeling exactly the same way about how we don't interact due to lack of reason.

[Zaleramancer]

Zaya (14)

Overgod of Hags and Dark Magic

Power: 3
Precision: 3
Perception: 5
Presence: 2

Plot Sense (4)

Zaya always knows when anything important is going on. She may not know precisely what or where, but she knows something is up.

Flexible Mentality (2)

Zaya is a mental contortionist. She can run several trains of thoughts at once, or expand her mind to flash-memorize information without first comprehending it, or allow her mind to grow fractally to handle loads of information at once.

Old Crone (2)

Zaya is older than the hills and the earth they lie on. She can be assumed to have seen nearly anything at least once.

=Tool Of Office=

Her Mirror, a device that can see anything, anywhere on the world without being spotted in return. It can pierce nearly any illusion or disguise.
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So, Zaya.

Eerily perceptive. Stronger and more precise than she seems.

Her skills are permissions for her to show up anywhere anyone is posting without explanations, know anything that's been posted except in the most secret manner (Such as in a private plane) and use meta-knowledge.

This makes her a nasty player when it comes to knowing things.

You'll note that most of her powers are bent to that end.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Zaleramancer wrote

If I go with the idea of no-automatic motes, I'd have to figure out a way of gaining more.

The easiest way I can think of is by furthering your domain, if you want to go the route.

[Zaleramancer]

Of course, the last time I tried that, people would just do.. shallow things to do that.

Lighting stuff on fire or beautifying.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Also, I was wondering. For Power, Precision, Perception and Presence, how many do I have to work with again?

[Zaleramancer]

14, split between Stats and Skills.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Okay, this actually gives me an opportunity to touch on conflict resolution.

Beholdith the Watchman, again:

Vaults notes wrote

The Watchman

Overgod of The Oppressed and Just Causes

Power: 3
Precision: 3
Perception: 5
Presence: 3

The Man in the Dark (4)

The Watchman has an uncanny ability to place himself where he will not be noticed, even among the gods.

Strength of the Cause (2)

For as long as the Watchman is pursuing a cause that it righteous and just, he may at this skill to any of his stats to represent the fervor it fills him with.

The Better Part of Valor (2)

The Watchman is not one to attempt a straight up fight, and has no compulsions about running from one if he can't win. This skill represents his uncanny ability to escape from any situation.

=Tool Of Office=
The Watchman’s Mask completely shrouds his identity so thoroughly that it is impossible to tell whether he has been slain or not. So long as one of the masks exits, a new Watchman will be created with all of the original memories. Potentially any Watcher is the Watchman.

You'll notice that both Plot Sense and Man in the Dark  are at (4). They seem to cancel one another out. How do we handle this if The Watchman uses Man in the Dark to escape Plot Sense?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

[Zaleramancer]

Zaya won't be here to sense you anytime soon. :P

We would have a nice discussion about it and decide what was narratively appropriate.

If you think she should know and I agree, she would.

If you think she shouldn't and I agree, she wouldn't.

If we disagree, we continue to discuss it.

[Zaleramancer]

Or we could roll a die if that makes it more interesting.

[Philote]

I'm back  Time to give my opinion on things

1. Artifacts:

I really like Vault's system except for a few points. The idea of having a Tool of Office plus a Divine Artifact to combo with it makes a lot of sense and removes the need to build up Divine Artifacts. You could even have it where you could use three Divine Artifacts together at once as long as your Tool of Office was not one of them.

I disagree with changing the amount you can have equipped, because we have to keep in mind the amount of things we have already worked into the story. One of my Spirits literally has several Divine Artifacts built into its body. Don't change how many they can have, just change the amount that can be of worth at any point.

2. Motes:

I don't like the gaining of motes by only acting on a domain for reasons Zale has stated. Since motes are a necessity, people will be forced to enact ways to further their domain to gain them.

The problem is that we have a disproportionate amount of participation among users, meaning that there will always be a group that has more under a game style system.

If we get rid of the point to buy system completely and just RP it we get things like Jester or even Wulf who just pop in with stuff compared to Dryad or I who actually followed the rules and earned our things.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Uburra-Namall

Overgoddess of Love, Passion, Inspiration, Creativity and Beauty

Power: 4
Precision: 2
Perception: 3
Presence: 5

Fairest of All (4)
As goddess of love and beauty, a vision of loveliness cannot be imagined by mortal minds that surpasses Uburra-Namall in physical beauty, social charm and divine finesse. In fact, her presence makes sure of it. Even if people were able to look into the very creative heart of the universe, they would forget it all in an instant, upon gazing at Uburra-Namall's radiance, or hearing her voice. Though she can shapeshift to any standard of beauty she desires, she always stands out in the crowd (especially since she is invulnerable to any injury that might damage her external appearance).

Artistic Soul (4)
As goddess of passion, creativity and inspiration, Uburra-Namal's heart is a well of enrapturing depth; she is the source for all art and inspiration in this world. However, sometimes her heart and her head get carried away, and she finds her self imagining things into existence (from objects and items, to servants and lovers), and subconsciously affecting the world with her imagination (beautifying a barren field merely by standing in it, and the like). To help relieve the erratic nature of this power, she will freely give creativity and inspiration of herself, immediately and automatically, to any soul who seeks her assistance in earnest.

=Tool of Office=
The Heartbreaker is a large, heavy warhammer, a powerful and deliberate tool forged without the use of hands. It comes from the pure passionate depths of Uburra-Namall's heart, from the energy present at the nexus of the Plane of Love and Life and the Plane of Creativity. And with it, Uburra-Namall can do massive damage, because it responds with power proportionate to the passion within her heart, and her heart's capacity to love. What's more, it takes the most loving and passionate heart even to lift it, giving it the nickname 'Love's Mjolnir'.

(How's this?)

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Wrong distribution.

You start with one in ever stat, and spend one point to add to it.

You can also spend points to buy 2 ranks in a skill.

The way you distributed, you have 7 and a half points left.

Go nutz!

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 YES.