Lords Of Creation 13 (OCC)

[Zaleramancer]

Tsubasa & Wen Tien wrote

@Zale: At least Mina and Ilusia don't have 5's in Power.

And now for Suna, Goddess of Sand and Glass:

Level: Major
Power: 2
Precision: 4
Perception: 3
Presence: 3
Glass Veil (4): Like glass when viewed the right way, Suna can make her presence seem to disappear completely. Gods and goddesses who have higher levels of perception may be able to feel her if they are trying, but mortals will feel like they're seeing something that's not there and yet still visible to them.
===Tool of Office===
The Glass Sword, Nighthawk
-A sword made of pure glass, Nighthawk can create physical copies of itself and fire them at any target that Suna desires. If they miss, the blades will shatter and attempt to lodge themselves in an enemy's body for maximum pain later on as the shards dig themselves into the body as much as possible.



Is Suna alright, Zale? This is kind of how I imagine her. More the type to play with mortals than to deal with divine-level problems.

And I just realized I missed two points for Illusia, I'll be fixing that quickly.

Her weapon is rather sadistic, don't you think?

A stealth power is fine.

It'll still be beaten if someone has a perception-skill that's higher.

[Philote]

How specific do they need to be? It seemed like most of the examples I've seen so far weren't very specific.

One for each Domain she has, she is the one Gilgamesh dumped his domains on before he died.

They didn't have a large role in the first age, I'm going to revise my original theme for them and try to get them more involved next age.

[Zaleramancer]

Hmmm.

Miracle Worker..

How Many Places?

People should be more specific with these things.

[Zaleramancer]

I need examples of how the ability to warp reality, even in controlled ways, is equivalent to anything else anyone has suggested.

Before you ask for something, think of what Jester would do with it.

If it ends with the world burning, then you won't get it. :)

[Philote]

Would I be able to get anything then?

I may of made the Wish one too strong, I did not really want full reality warping even though that is how I phrased it. I'll have to give it some thought on how precisely I want it to work.

What about the others?

[Zaleramancer]

Willing Magic to things.

What all could that do?

I can see very few things It couldn't do.

Mimicking mortals wouldn't be that bad if there weren't some fairly powerful abilities floating around, potentially.

Shaping. What does that even mean, to reshape the power of divine and artifacts.

Combining with Artifacts.. Wha?

Most of yours are probably fine if you'd just explain them thoroughly.

I do wish people would make more thematic abilities and less stat pumping.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

That was rather the whole point of her weapon, so glad you got that.

That's fine. I expected that.


And now for Kyuuketsu, Goddess of Blood and Wood:

Level: Major
Power: 4
Precision: 4
Perception: 1
Presence: 3
Judgement Cross (4)
===Tool of Office===
The Bloody Spear, Akatonbo
-Akatonbo is a longspear that appears to constantly have blood dripping from its tip.
-Akatonbo causes great pain in those it cuts
-Akatonbo can be thrust forward to fire a ray that makes a the target's blood boil if it hits (500°C)



Having trouble deciding what Kyuuketsu's power should do, but the name feels right.

Also, are the two powers alright? They're quite sadistic, but that's the purpose: to make noone want to fight Kyuuketsu.

[Zaleramancer]

Looks good.

Though Gods have Divine Ichor.

Works either way.

Nasty weapon.

[Philote]

I haven't fully flushed out all of these yet, that's why I posted them here for ideas  What sort of thematic ability are you looking for/how could I apply that to someone from my Pantheon?

The thought process I had was that Anima would be focused and precise but Bahamut would be more raw and general with his magic. Bahamut would call mana to build up into a Divine Thunderstorm over a Spirit while Anima would strike a singular large lightning bolt down on a target.

Would it help if I did only my races only?

Lore is sort of the maintenance man of Gilgamesh's group. If a Divine Artifact or Hero needs to be reworked, it is best if Lore does it. That part mostly deals with stuff inPantheon. The other part is a mimicking ability.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Trying to do that as much as possible.

Mina's "Multiple Incarnations" = Bunshin (Japanese)
Mina's "Illusion of Movement" = Kami (Japanese, though had to give Loki as an example (un)fortunately)
Illusia's "Prayers Heard" = Purpose of temples
Illusia's "Illusory Image" = Amplification of a Domain
Suna's "Glass Veil" = Properties of Glass
Kyuuketsu's "Bloody Cross" = ...TBD

[Zaleramancer]

Well, look at it this way: Skills are supposed to be specialized, free miracles.

Keeping that in mind, think of knacks you'd expect them to have.

The problem with that is it's far to general.

The ability to have an untraceable copy VS the ability to throw lighting, conjure things, divine things, throw fireballs, enchant things, raise barriers...

Yes, it would help if you kept it to your own races.

Also, I really don't like the idea of changing what an Artifact can do.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Alright, thank you.

Now to think of Judgement Cross's effect...

[Philote]

What would be a better/more thematic ability for the two of them? Those two are both magic heavy Spirits.

I can do that, would be easier for me to manage anyways.

The artifact mimicry would be for mine also as well. It doesn't completely change the nature of a Divine Artifact, it is mostly for thing like how Muramasa would be different in Gilgamesh's hands than it would be in Yojimbo's, or how Gilgamesh's armor is able to change no matter what form he takes.

[Zaleramancer]

Get Symbolic.

Perhaps something involving wood, since you've got Blood covered with the weapon.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

UPDATED

Kyuuketsu, Goddess of Blood and Wood
Level: Major
Power: 4
Precision: 4
Perception: 1
Presence: 3
Judgement Cross (4): Kyuuketsu can make wood appear around a target before it latches onto them, then invades their bodily systems, ripping them apart from the inside as the wood turns into a cross to mark the spot the target died at, before blasting apart to harm any allies of the killed that may be around where they died
===Tool of Office===
The Bloody Spear, Akatonbo
-Akatonbo is a longspear that appears to constantly have blood dripping from its tip.
-Akatonbo causes great pain in those it cuts
-Akatonbo can be thrust forward to fire a ray that makes a the target's blood boil if it hits (500°C)



Is this good, Zale? Please tell me if Kyuuketsu is too sadistic for your liking.

[Zaleramancer]

Give them specific powers over magic, or particular kinds of magic.

If you want them to be the paragon masters of a particular type of magic, that's fine.

I just don't want them to have super-every-magic skills.

Being a Master of Mortal Magic wouldn't be that impressive, since a God can unwork that with relative ease.

[Philote]

Both of them are more tied with Pure Arcane/Raw Mana than any particular school of magic. I agree that the range is probably to wide for both of them, I'm just trying to figure out the best way to fix it.

[Philote]

So under this system, what is stopping me/making it not optimal to give everyone one (6) skill, using that as my once-per turn thing, and dumping the rest into stats?

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

What's stopping you is the fact that just pumping it into one (6) skill is that your gods won't be as unique and many of the skills are, while not directly tied to a god's domain, are part of their theme and help to flesh them out.

E.G. Mina can practically move faster than any other god(dess) and has alternate identities, neither of which are part of her domains, but help to give an idea of what she is like. Fast at getting to a problem while simultaneously sneaking around to reach her hidden goals (if any).

E.G. A god with only Power 5, Precision 5, and a single skill tells us only that the god is capable of ripping apart continents molecule-by-molecule very quickly, but not much else.

It's pretty much a way to say, "Hey, my god is different from your's and this is why!"

[Philote]

Most of my Pantheon could only afford a singular ability anyways.