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I rather like the idea of our normal characters being guides and bothersome nuisances to a new breed of characters better.
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I anticipate every other character to go derp, while the Character explains it.. for the seventh or eight time.
It's mostly techno/magibabble. :D
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We would have to start off completely new then, even using a different character from one of our back stories implies having to explain each of our dimensions.
Starting off new may be necessary, but is it possible we could just use our characters and bring in aspects of them slowly?
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So, the Marvelous Miscreant is going to be a mentor, standing back, and taking no action as some ultimate evil comes along attacking everything that he vows to protect?
No, thank you. I'd much rather not neuter my character. It's not only unnecessary, but also kind of naive, to think that we need to entirely downgrade our old characters. You already know my vote. Make our characters somewhat more serious, with a more structure plot and more structured storyline. We can make them better without reducing them in power, status and character.
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That's the problem though. We can't start with them being just as powerful as they are now, because there would be nowhere to go from there. There would be nothing to build upon, nothing to develop, nothing to grow.
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I think it's a great idea.
It enables us to have a story with reality warpers that works. We already hold back an insane amount. There is no problem in the whole damn storyline a single one of us could not fix in a picosecond. I like this idea, because it offers me a way to expand upon the idea of what my NB character is. More than simply an author avatar. It lets us play in and expand concretely upon the setting we have crafted without having to deliberately gimp ourselves to keep from smashing it. I fully support this idea.
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Exactly. We stand at the end of a long evolution of increased power. By shifting those to the background, we can have a wider range of possible stories.
It'd be really boring to do it with the normal characters. I'm dead serious about this. No one will read something where the plot-lines only work because of the main characters holding back.
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Then, why can't we build in power?
Like I said, you can make our first characters more effective. In whatever ways you think are necessary. Start us off as immature beings, incapable at first of not only tapping our full power potential, but also incapable of comprehending the power that we possess. And then, as the villain and his/her/its forces come along and create havoc, or we even face problems of our own making, we grow slowly until we reach the point of psychological maturity. And, while on the topic of development, do you have a set idea for how long this will run? Will it go up until the latest, 20-something NB?
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So, you want us to start from the beginning?
Fuck that noise.
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Well, like I said, I'd rather not backtrack through what's already happened in New Beginning and rather start from where we're already at, with a new story.
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Well, first of all, the profanity is unnecessary.
And anyway, how is having other people start from the beginning any different? Please elaborate as to how... If we already have the power, there's no reason we can't solve a problem ourselves. If we don't have the power, we have to gain the power. The same would be true of any protege we took on.
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Wulf, I think you're getting too caught up on how related this is to the Original works of New Beginning. We don;t want to redo the kind of stuff we've already done, because....we already did it. I wanted this project to be a new venture into the Multiverse we already created.
New characters who enter the scene of a multitude of wondrous worlds were superpowered beings are prominent. They fight their own battles and have their own adventure that occasionally crosses with the multitude of content we already created.
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The profanity is needed because I haven't slept in (a) very long time and I'm irked.
Having other characters means we can explore new territory. Everything we've built will still exist, but it will no longer be the main focus of the story. Hell, we'll probably still be bouncing around wasting time like we always do in the background. Why don't we solve everything? Because we're pseudo-fictional. If we fix everything, there's no story. If there's no story, we have no reason for continuing to exist. Or it may not even blip on our radar. When's the last time we payed attention to anything less important than something capable of destroying a few galaxies?
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Well, whatever, I can't really say I'm all that concerned about it, either way. If you guys see a difference in TEACHING upstarts and BEING upstarts, I'll have to go with your decisions regardless.
I'll try to make the best of whatever comes of the planning, so do whatever you think is best.
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It's not a roleplay. It would be a collaborative story effort that expresses itself through a few different mediums. The focus of the story would be those upstarts.
We'd be the big titans in the background.
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The main issues I see being brought up are 1. We would be too powerful to have anything worth worrying about doing 2. Our characters are too strong that there would be no where to go
in response: 1. We can create problems that match or exceed what we've created for our characters, just because we are strong doesn't mean that there will not be anything beyond our limit that we will have to deal with an overcome. 2. Just because our characters are incredibly powerful already doesn't mean they can't grow more, I've had at least two power evolutions during NB and I'm still contemplating how else for my character to grow.
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I'd rather not focus on our original characters is all. I'd rather they be background figures in a new adventure.
Kinda like a sequel where the heroes of the first are done being in the spotlight and have cleared the stage for a new generation of protectors. Ya know what I mean?
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Like I said in the post before this, it's really up to whoever is the majority. I'll go along with whatever you decide. it doesn't really matter, either way, to me, as long as we don't make it out as though OUR exploits in New Beginning never happened. And since you say that this is an extension of that universe, rather than a replacement for it, it is something of a consolation.
I remain neutral, and will go on with whoever has the majority. And if there's a tie, I'll gladly be the deciding vote in whichever has the best case, even if it ends up not being the one I first chose.
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That's what he's saying. :/
This is set in the same multiverse or whatever. It's only the focus that's changed.
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See the post I made that comes before this one.
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