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Philote
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Well lets certainly pray that that last statement doesn't come to pass.
Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?

1 Corinthians 13:1-3 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
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Also, don't guess the future. Guessing the future / Making your own plan for the future / Thinking the future can only turn out a certain way has a very high average of being wrong
Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?

1 Corinthians 13:1-3 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
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Have you been listening?

There is no necessity to choose celibacy.

Plenty of people call themselves Christian and have tattoos, watch R-rated movies, drink like demons, curse like sailors, have sex like Incubi and Succubi and do plenty of other things of that sort. Being Christian does not mean being a limp, prudish eunuch. We're allowed to live secular lives, as long as we know the boundaries not to cross, and as long as we repent when we cross those boundaries.

Barring hardcore drugs, pedophilia, rape, murder, etc, I think you'd be fine.
“…Judge not what a man has done, but judge what he could have done if he was a different bloke altogether. For art thou a leper? And a leper can changeth his spots…”   --Rudy Wade, Misfits (Series 4, Episode 8)
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Annnd happy thoughts gone..
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
― Hogfather
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Not to say we should be encouraging any of that or to say that you can do whatever you want and just expect to be instantly forgiven

You just have to work and live through God to then be able to accept Jesus and be saved.
Romans 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?

1 Corinthians 13:1-3 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
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I know.

I was just making an observation.
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
― Hogfather
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What? Life ain't all happiness and roses. I'm being very for real with you.

I don't think you're on the verge of death (my mom usually gets feelings about that kind of thing), I'm just sayin'. Let's be realistic.

But for the most part, I'm kidding. I think you're on the verge of coming to a solution, and finding clarity (or at least some climax leading toward it).
“…Judge not what a man has done, but judge what he could have done if he was a different bloke altogether. For art thou a leper? And a leper can changeth his spots…”   --Rudy Wade, Misfits (Series 4, Episode 8)
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Well, yeah, those things I thought were implied.

I never meant to imply you could live a hellacious life and still get into Heaven, but still...we fall short, too.

As a matter of fact...
“…Judge not what a man has done, but judge what he could have done if he was a different bloke altogether. For art thou a leper? And a leper can changeth his spots…”   --Rudy Wade, Misfits (Series 4, Episode 8)
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