Lords of Creation 15 (OCC)

[Zaleramancer]

It's not much that I'm aware of.

I really need to get more organized.

I don't appear to have gotten any email.

Did you send it via the forum?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

I think the summary on the site is pretty helpful as far as information goes. Unless you require a different type of information. If so, maybe I can be of some help?

Except math. Teh maths I cannot do very well.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Yeah, I sent it using the forum. I'll try sending it using the actual e-mail this time, so please do check your e-mail.

@Wulf: Thanks. Glad to be of use.

[Zaleramancer]

You know, examining the game system is rather interesting.

Motes mostly exist to keep people from doing over-the-top things over and over, back to back.

Stats and Skills exist primarily to lend conflict resolution outside of the normal freeform.

Multiple gods exist to allow people more chances to roleplay.

Races exist.. .. primarily to serve as backdrop or npcs.

Mythical beings.. exist to have powerful mundane threats?

Divine Servitors exist to have minions.

Heroes exist to make individuals exceptional.

What can we work with from here?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Um, what exactly did you have in mind? Adding something to the current game system, taking some things away, or making use of what we already have?

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Don't forget the Incarnates which are powerful offenses or defenses.

Is there anything else that we can add?

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Just added a page for the Blazah family too. You might want to check it out Zale for accuracy in information.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Sorry for the delay everyone. I'm not sure how many motes I have, but a definitely will tomorrow. I'll finish up Mars coverage plan then.

Also, Zale, Whatever happened to the Watcher, Watchdog, and old Dwarf woman that took off with Waverider? I kept expecting something to come of that.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

It's fine GV. We can't all get on when everyone else needs us to.

As for your other issue, it's around the same kind of thing that I'm wondering about the Blazah family (though they were probably just as well protected as your characters, just without a god next to them)

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Well, apparently, some side stories didn't get covered all the way to a logical conclusion. Kaita, Fidion and Brynhildr; the Blazah Family, and probably some others. Those, I think we can use to our advantage. The ends of their stories can be incorporated into the myths of later times. And as the stories get passed on from one group to another, maybe one embellishes a bit more than the last, until mortals are demi-gods or even deities themselves.

[Zaleramancer]

I'm considering my own mistakes.

Skills were meant as conflict resolution, but I mangled them into abilites- often ones that were inappropriate.

Which is a mistake.

I have an idea.

Skills of any kind represent an advantage at a certain task.

An enchanting Siren might have a 3 point skill at Captivating By Singing.

Any creature that heard it would have to have a skill of 3, say, Resisting Outside Influences or Against Enchantments, to be wholly unaffected.

If said creature had a lower skill, then the amount of skill they had would still have an effect. (In order to prevent total binary-ness). One with a skill of 1 Against Influences would still be better off than someone with none. They'd still be affected, but have the possibility to partially resist.

Someone with a skill of 3 would ignore a Sirens suggestions completely.

Someone with a skill of 2 might ignore any suggestions that had obvious long or short term consequences to him.

Someone with a skill of 1 might ignore anything obviously suicidal.

Someone with a skill of 0 wouldn't have much of a chance.

Gods come into play slightly differently.

Because they have Stats.

Gods can add a single stat to a single skill whenever it would make sense for them to do so. (Basically, whenever you can convince everyone it makes sense).

A god with a skill in Sword Fighting might be able to add his Power or Precision to it if it made sense at the time. (If he's simply hacking at something, Power makes perfect sense. If it requires finesse and control, Precision.)

Which gives them an obvious edge in conflict resolution.  

But.. that's not all.

Stats can also stand in for skills the god doesn't even have.

A goddess may not have a skill in Hitting Things With Rocks, but she can easily substitute her Power for it.

Which is why they're powerful.

A Dragon with a 2 point skill in Breathing Fire would be able to devastate most things, unless said things had a 2 point skill in Not Combusting.

A god with 2 Precision can substitute stat for skill by saying that they carefully divert the flames around themselves.

Among the gods themselves, this isn't so impressive.

Even with innate defenses, a god with a 4 point Killing Things With Swords skill and a Power of 3 is a substantial threat to nearly anything.

[Zaleramancer]

Hm.

She's obviously going to want to reward them.

I'd imagine she'll offer demi-god-hood at the least.

What do you think?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Hm, I see your point. So, basically, the stats and skills system needs reworking? Or, perhaps, better explanation of the current system?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

I agree. I plan on deifying some folks, too.

[Zaleramancer]

Reaffirmation of them?

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Most likely, yes. Nothing serious, just maybe making summary phrasing clearer.

[Zaleramancer]

See.. No one offers real input. :|

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 I'm trying to think of what I think should be added, or changed. Goodness, gimme a little time to think. I think I'm getting the idea, but I have to think of the implications of current game setup, as well as the implications of possible future game setup.

[Philote]

The main problem I see is that abilities like "Resisting Outside Influences" and "Not Combusting" are not really things people are going to be putting points into so there is not going to be a ready defense against every possible ability so more often than not people are going to be acting as if they had a Zero in their defense against anything used against them.

Sure there could be abilities like "Iron Body" that you could just use as a defense against anything physical but then wouldn't that give people to broad of defenses? A four in "Iron Body" would give a high defense that could not be easily overcome by any power that was not either energy based or something magical. Some sort of magic based defense ability would cover an even larger range.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm not sure there is a equal balance between abilities we've given races and additional abilities that we would use to counteract the points from the first abilities.

On a different note, for the Beta, do motes automatically get stored in our Plane if we go over limit? And could someone refresh me on how many motes a Plane can store.

@Dryad: Once I finish catching up with posts I'll work on the tier thing and try to get it posted tonight.

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

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