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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Zaleramancer
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A question for you people..

If there was an AI that for all intents and purposes Sentient and self aware, it has a personality and thinks and feels like a human.

Would you treat it like a person, or a smart toaster?
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

neogenetica
Depends.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Zaleramancer
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On?
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

jester_of_god
Person.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

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Person.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

neogenetica
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My mood, the AI's attitude and my plans.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Marvelous Miscreant
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of course....
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Zaleramancer
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If the AI is fairly nice, then what?
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
― Hogfather
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Zaleramancer
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Anyway, the reason for this is something I read in another fourm.

Some people were debating something along the lines of if a futuristic artificial intelligence could feel, and if could be considered a person.

I would go with, "If it can convince me that it's a self-aware being, then treat it as such."

Otherwise things get ugly..
“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
― Hogfather
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Marvelous Miscreant
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I agree.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

jester_of_god
I'm planning on making one so yeah.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

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...remeber Jester, there's a difference between fiction and reality.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

jester_of_god
quiet demon.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

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Making a self-aware AI?

Genuine question - how do you tell them apart?

Say I present you with one AI controlled cybershell kitten and one real kitten. One with real pain/happiness, one expressing programmed behaviours of pain/happiness. You can spend as long as you want with both of them and perform any tests you like - you'll never be able to tell which is which. Why would you save one over a million of the other? For that matter how would you know which to save.
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“She'd become a governess. It was one of the few jobs a known lady could do. And she'd taken to it well. She'd sworn that if she did indeed ever find herself dancing on rooftops with chimney sweeps she'd beat herself to death with her own umbrella.”
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Marvelous Miscreant
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A vexing question indeed.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Marvelous Miscreant
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Only reminding you of the truth.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

jester_of_god
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The brain is a bio computer. programmed with instinct.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

Marvelous Miscreant
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I'm not a demon.....I'm a normal human......
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

neogenetica
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Unless you really hated AI it wouldent matter. Though remember, while both may be "Living", one is manmade and expressing something almost exactly similar to real feelings, the other is a biological cocktail that has feelings. The AI can believe it has feelings, and for it it's programming may seem like feelings, but living things just have feelings as a generalization. It's effectively coded into their DNA. There may be little difference but what differs is that for one, feelings aren't a true part of it's nature, for the other they are. Unless you wanted to get to where you made an AI to build an AI with feelings, but even then it's not the same.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence VS Jester!

jester_of_god
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Sure Marve we know
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