Generic (Totally orginal) Fantasy roleplay. Part two!

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Dude...why can't you stick to a single set of skills? You keep picking skills that don't go together.

[Mik_Hael]

....okay, I honestlly don't understand how these don't go together.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

How can you not understand. Let me give you an example.

I have a spell sword so all my skills are based on my magic sword

The potion summoner class has skills based on making potions

a pyromancer has all fire skills.


If you play a bard, you would have musical skills....not shapeshifting.

[Mik_Hael]

Chaos Bard not Bard. Like difference between night and paladin.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Still....Shapeshifting has nothing to do with it. Illusions maybe, but not shapeshifting.

[Mik_Hael]

How so, Both illusions and shapechanging are used as works of deception and chaos. It would not be anything on the range of Philotes soul users, like a raven a bear etch, it's more along the lines of other humanoids, at higher levels I might be able to pass as an elf, goblin, or orc by a long shot with the help of illusions but mostly I'll probably just be using it for it's attack style purposes. If I play it correctly I could condense a bone and expand it into a small blade for close combat or lock picking.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Music and Shapeshifting have nothing in common. Just because you are a chaos bard does not change that fact. Besides shapeshifting is like a class in itself.

[Mik_Hael]

okay then. Chaos Ministrel.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Marvelous_Miscreant wrote

Besides shapeshifting is like a class in itself.

[Mik_Hael]

If you can do things like shapeshifting into inanimate objects and animals.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

My point is it's not something that you can really put into a different class, unless it is toned down a lot. Like to the point where you only have one or two other forms.

[Mik_Hael]

Define form.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Are you kidding me? It's a simple word, I shouldn't have to define it for you.
       
"The visible shape or configuration of something."

or if you need an example, a character who has two forms, a mouse and a falcon.

[Mik_Hael]

Exactly, but mine already limits itself almost entirly to the humanoid form, and I say almost only because for small areas such about the size of the human palm you can alter on a greater level.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

If you were restricted to the human form you would have no shapeshifting powers. I don't think you understand the concept. Being able to change parts of yourself is very powerful shapeshifting. It's too powerful in fact.

Now, I wipe my hands of this subject.

[Zaleramancer]

Changing shape, you say?

[Mik_Hael]

Basically yes. although I was thinking around fifteen or twenty I'd be able to shapeshift into other humanoids convincingly without the use of Illusion, granted they had the same number of limbs. And were not that different in height, in otherwords no giants or pixies.

As for the small area shapechanging I was thinking along the lines of something similiar to shapeshifting fingers into keys or a weapon made of bone similiar to the arm blade in full metal alchemist.

[Zaleramancer]

Well, the D&D spell I presented would allow a humanoid to assume the form of other humanoids (Humans, Elves, Dwarves, etc..). Just that is fairly powerful, as there are a few humanoids with wings or the ability to breath underwater (Which can be useful).

With the ability to change small aspects of your form, it creates a much more potent and versatile effect.

Look at it this way. The same level you get this, someone else gets the ability to light their sword on fire. Just that.

And you can use your ability to make skeleton keys, escape bonds, thicken skin, create small weaponry, and disguise yourself.. all rolled up in one.

Which is why Marv is objecting.

Just thought you may want to know.

[Mik_Hael]

Zaleramancer wrote

Well, the D&D spell I presented would allow a humanoid to assume the form of other humanoids (Humans, Elves, Dwarves, etc..). Just that is fairly powerful, as there are a few humanoids with wings or the ability to breath underwater (Which can be useful).

No other limbs or complex organs so no wings or fins.perhaps a naga tail at level twenty or higher, but that's it.


With the ability to change small aspects of your form, it creates a much more potent and versatile effect.


Look at it this way. The same level you get this, someone else gets the ability to light their sword on fire. Just that.

True, I'll give you that, but then again I can't use weapons, or heavy armor.


And you can use your ability to make skeleton keys, escape bonds, thicken skin, create small weaponry, and disguise yourself.. all rolled up in one.

So basically all the skills of a level two or three thief.

Which is why Marv is objecting.

I get why he's rejecting it's similiar to why I was cut off in lords of creation bfore the first event.

Just thought you may want to know.

[Zaleramancer]

Well.. Will you kill everything with ease, have the answer for everything and steal the spotlight from everyone else?

Because if not, I see no problems with approving your current set of abilities. Mostly because I doubt you'll budge.