Lords of Creation 16 (OOC)

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Well, you don't have to give Mar the ol' Greek Tragedy treatment...I rather like her. Maybe she kind of deserves a happy afterlife in the Plane of Love and Life? Or she could even be banished somehow to her own realm, unable to leave, but also unable to stop others from entering? Maybe they can leave the realm (if she allows), but she can't leave, being unable to exist outside of it at all?

[Marvelous Miscreant]

A wonderful idea I believe.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Erganon

Demi-God
Domain: Hard Work (Exercise, etc) and Vigor

Power: 2
Precision: 1
Perception: 1
Presence: 0

Like Father, Like Son (3)
As the god of hard work and vigor, Erganon is considered a powerhouse for his power bracket. However, he doesn't not simply possess power of his own accord; he can also channel the strength and toughness of his father's domain, the earth itself, to enhance his own physical strength and toughness. This power is especially effective when he is in physical contact with the ground. However, this ability only applies to strength and toughness of work, not combat.

Worker's Will (1)
As the god of hard work, Erganon is an incredibly hard worker, diligent and responsible. Apart from making him incredibly stubborn and headstrong, this ability also makes him nearly impossible to distract or tempt with unsavory or immoral thoughts, feelings or ideas. In fact, not only can he withstand such thoughts and feelings, but if any being of equal or lesser power attempts to impose such thoughts and feelings on him, he can psychically push them back to their source, hurting the foe.

=Tool of Office=
The Hard Hat is a helmet that protects the user's head, neck and spinal column from all physical harm. The user need only put the helmet on, and the user is immediately fortified. Naturally, along with allowing great defense or the user, it also allows the user to act as a living battering ram, capable of bowling through any object or being of equal or lesser power at will.

(Lemme know if I'm missing something here. I really want to get Crav and Uburra-Namall's children and any other future deities right...)

[Zaleramancer]

I want to give up because none of you bother reading the rules I post and persist in ignoring them even after I explain them.

But now I'm to invested in my role as DM to want to give it up.

Migranes. And I'm so tired.

Ugh. I'm going to go bitch at people over the internet.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

Wulf....read.

Zale wrote

Alright.

Opinions on (By ignoring this, all right to bitch later is waived):

Skills should be used for conflict resolution, not directly add abilities. ( For example, Fighting With Swords.)

By directly add abilities, I mean that you can't have an ability that is simply a statement of "They can do X"

General rule of thumb: Include a action verb.

NO: Breaths Fire, YES: Breathing Fire.

Gods may add any of their stats that make sense for the action as they please.

For example, if Fionna the Fire Goddess wants to torch a hill giant and she has a Controlling Fire (3) and decides to apply her raw power (3) to the attack, then her effective skill is 6.

Gods may also substitute a stat for skills they don't have.

If the Hill Giant survives the blast from Fionna and responds with a polite objection written on a boulder, she may substitute her power for her non-existent skill in Catching Projectiles.

This makes the Gods quite potent- transforming them into powerful and mythic figures.

Outside of conflict, the higher the skill, the more impressive the result.

Of course, conflict need not be dross battle.

A Hero and a God might conflict in a contest of skill.

Or attempt to persuade people to their view over their foes.

Heroes, Mythical Beings and possibly Gods would have to have their skill-point-totals modified. Heroes are definitely getting more.  

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 ...Never mind. I'm...I'm just gonna try to muddle through the volume of the TV here in the living room, to read those rules, mmkay? No worries. I got this.

[Zaleramancer]

Don't get pissy.

You aren't the only one doing it.

Everyone who's posted things since I posted that has done it!

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 Aren't these supposed to be linked to in the first post? Like the document that was posted at some time? Surely you didn't expect me to go scouring through untidy depths of teenage and college-age chatter and talk, to scout out those well drawn out rules.

Ugh, whatever, I have the rules before me now. I'm good. And for the record, I'll try my best not to burden anyone with this anymore, mmkay? Because, apparently, I'm stepping on some toes and getting on some nerves.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

That was from the last thread (15)...only a few pages before the end. Not hard to miss. Along with some other rule stuff from Zale.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 I'm not getting pissy. I'd just kind of like the rules to be made more plainly available. Like I've said before, I will try to follow the rules, but they have to be available for me to see. As in, linked, like before. Remember when you posted that document? I'd kinda like the edited version to be posted at the front of this thread.

Like I also said before, I'm glad to help in any way I know how. May not be a whole heck of a lot of help with technicals, because my only experience with RPing is here, but I'd try my best to be of some use.

Anyhow, it's just annoying that the story's rules are falling into chaos. I'd really like for this to work. And not that it isn't working, or that anybody's a bad guy here, but I feel like I just keep getting lost in a jumble of talk. I keep forgetting things, because we do so much here, and so much elsewhere. We need to get better organized, by the looks of things. Way more organized.

I don't know if I'm alone on this or not, but I've had quite enough with this mad genius treatment of scattering our data across the table, and relying on pure memory to locate things in the midst of the clutter.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

I'm sorry if it seems like I'm not paying attention, but I'm posting profiles to try to understand the new rules better. If you don't help, then I'm not going to improve on these.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

 I've read that. It does not answer my question. What that tells me is that I can add stat points to skill points to enhance overall power of divine abilities.

What I'm ASKING is if skill point allotment has changed. Did the number of skill points allotment change or what? Dryad mentioned something about having more skill points available. Is that true, or no?

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Here, Wulf, read this. It's the rules that are up-to-date for the last time I checked.

[Marvelous Miscreant]

It does however, tell you that your skills need changing. Not is number of points, but in description. Which was my point.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

The thought is not that he isn't being helpful. We just need to have the rules posted somewhere. The definite rules. If need be, I would be perfectly okay to ignore all past precedent, just to establish new rules. Not retconning anything that's already been done, but ignoring past actions as standards for the future. That, I can handle; as rules change, so too can the standards for the future.

As long as it means that we can get a guide of concrete standards, to be posted at the very beginning of the thread, for QUICK and EASY access, I am perfectly willing to forego all potential loopholes, any compromises, any potential faltering on the issue. If we can get clarity on everything, once and for all, I would gladly stay up all night and help construct the dang thing myself.

If for no other reason, for all of our collective sanity.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

Oh, you mean the names including verbs? That I can do. No problem...

Surprisingly enough, I never thought that would be a real point of issue, as long as the descriptions gave an idea of the power's function...but if that's the point of contention, then by all means, the names can change (despite being really awesome names)...

[Gentleman Vaultboy]

Okay, I added that to the first post.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

I can understand that. It's just that he's saying that none of us understand the rules, so if we don't then he needs to explain so that we can. And I've remade one character twice to get reviewed on whether or not they're alright and I haven't gotten any opinions on how to improve them. So then here's Koneko once more for review and opinions:

Koneko

Imp Hero

Skills:

What’s Yours is Mine and What’s Mine is Mine (Active) (2): Koneko copies any mortal technique that she has seen, so long as it doesn’t require a special Artifact or Divine Artifact to use and at a lower level of mastery. Divine Techniques take more time and effort to replicate and even then, Koneko can’t use them to their full potential.

Martial Prowess (2): Due to having trained for several hundred years, Koneko is extremely skilled at several hand-to-hand styles of combat and cannot be beaten by most mortal warriors.

Archmage (2): Having had the time to study for several years, Koneko knows far more spells and is highly more potent magically than the average mortal mage.

Chosen of Gravas (2): Having been chosen and trained by Gravas, Koneko is highly adept at controlling the elements of wind and water.

Bio:

Koneko is the only Imp to ever have a chance to be a hero and even then, she is the one who does the most administrative work in all of Môsôoriku, making sure that the land’s governmental and economic factors all run as smoothly as possible. She is highly revered by the Imps and the Kata for being so good at what she does, but they stop just a hair short of treating her like a goddess.

Koneko was created during the Tournament of Heroes and has lived since then as the de facto leader of Môsôoriku. She has seen many of her fellow heroes decide to sit down and rest until things get bad enough to be called upon once more as well as been given reports saying that some of them died. However, she has not given up hope that things will get better. When the Lycanthropic Wars started raging across Gammara, Koneko tried to get everyone together to talk things out and have them choose a leader peacefully, but to no avail.

And no, the 'Chosen of Gravas' part is not a part of Gilgamesh's mana batteries but a part of training at the University of Elements.

[Celadon's Penultimate]

@Dryad: Thanks, that's what I was looking for. And from that I can tell, the number of skill points was not raised; I just forgot it was 4 skill points for Demigods (thinking instead, that it was 2).

@GV: Thanks for putting it there, in case I forget again. Really, I don't like asking you guys to refresh me on these things. I rather pride myself on my memory, so it's really embarrassing when I keep forgetting this here, and that there, for this RP. Keeping those rules in a conveniently obvious place will help make finding it a heck of a lot easier, and hopefully, as a result, we'll have way fewer little spats like this.

[Tsubasa & Wen Tien]

Yes, you did forget, though the increase was from last night's posts, which is when I updated that document. It did get updated from 2 to 4 for Demi-Gods. If you'll notice, the Servitor section is only updated for the rules, the example still has only 2 skill points rather than 4, same with the mythos and hero sections.